Thank you. I am considering removing the turbo and manifold next weekend. Additionally, I am thinking about inspecting the valve covers. Do you have an estimate of how much Cat parts would cost for the repairs I mentioned earlier? I estimate it might be around $7,000 if a new head is needed, but I could be mistaken.
Investing in a high-quality truck shop can quickly cost you between 8 to 10 thousand dollars.
I concur with the truck shop regarding the 3406B engine - there seems to be a mistake in your post as it does not have a counter bore. It is best to avoid using classic parts, as even our dealer has warned us against using them. It is recommended to replace the oil jets for the pistons to prevent cracking and piston seizing issues. It is crucial to discard follower spring clips once they break, as this can cause the followers to turn sideways and damage the camshaft and engine block. Mark.
When it comes to rebuilding a reliable engine, it's not advisable to cut corners with potentially low-quality parts. It's important to invest in high-quality components that you can trust to keep your engine running smoothly.
Mark250 agrees with Truck Shop's assessment on the 3406B engine, noting the absence of a counter bore. He advises against using classic parts, a sentiment echoed by their own dealer. Mark also recommends changing the oil jets for the pistons to prevent cracks and piston grabbing incidents. It is crucial to discard follower spring clips when they break, as they can cause followers to turn sideways and damage the cam and block. Truck Shop appreciates the correction and humorously attributes their forgetfulness to aging.
Despite facing potential challenges from the wild dog pack, I have successfully worked on numerous farm truck engines using McBee and F-P engine kits with stellar results. These trucks operate under heavy loads for 1.5-3 months annually, and these kits have significantly extended the lifespan of vehicles that would otherwise be deemed economically unviable for Cat gold kits. While I opt for genuine Cat O-rings on the liners, the aftermarket kits have also proven reliable on 2-stroke Detroits. However, for daily freeway use, I have found Cat to be the preferred choice.
I have heard that their classic parts are designed for individuals who do not frequently utilize their equipment. Considering that this will be powering a show/play truck, I thought it could be a suitable option. However, after reading some discussions, I am starting to have doubts. I do not want to overspend on something that will not be used much, but I also do not want to risk a breakdown due to opting for a cheaper option. Surprisingly, the engine runs fairly well despite sitting idle for 10 years. I did not perform any maintenance such as changing oil, filters, or fuel. I simply connected the batteries and started it up. Fortunately, there are no signs of oil in the radiator or coolant in the oil, so I am hopeful that the block, crank, and head are still in good condition. If it were not for excessive blowby and difficulty starting, I would have considered repairing the leaks and giving it a fresh coat of paint. I truly value all the advice given here. Working with diesel engines larger than 4 litres is not something I often do nowadays.
When it comes to blowby, it's important to verify that the compressor isn't causing the problem - as rare as it may be. If your engine is struggling to start, it may be time for a replacement. Consider going with aftermarket parts for your next build, especially if you're planning to transfer the mechanical motor to a KW truck.
In a recent forum post, user RZucker shared their positive experience using McBee and F-P engine kits on farm truck engines, highlighting their reliability and cost-effectiveness. These kits have been successfully used on trucks operating under heavy loads for 1.5-3 months a year, saving vehicles that would otherwise require expensive Cat gold kits. While RZucker uses genuine Cat O-rings for liners, they have also used these aftermarket kits on 2-stroke Detroits without any issues. However, for trucks used for daily freeway duty, RZucker prefers to stick with Cat kits. Overall, these engine kits have proven to be a valuable and dependable solution for truck maintenance needs. Explore more at the Truck Shop.
Wow, this post must hold the record for the highest number of emojis used in one post! How amusing!
The debate arises: are OEM classic parts superior to aftermarket alternatives? Overall, the consensus seems to confirm that authentic Cat components are likely used internally. Opting for quality initially can ultimately save you money in the long run.
When it comes to choosing replacement parts, I prefer opting for other aftermarket options over Cat Classic parts. Many aftermarket brands have a strong reputation built over decades, boasting quality control measures that ensure a reliable and durable product.
d9gdon expressed a preference for using aftermarket parts over Cat Classic parts due to their reliability and longevity in the market. Some aftermarket parts have established quality control processes and consistently produce high-quality products that meet industry standards. However, in the past, d9g has faced challenges when attempting to use classic parts on non-critical areas, such as misaligned bolt holes and poorly finished machined surfaces, resulting in the need for returns. This emphasizes the importance of careful consideration when selecting parts for machinery maintenance and repair.
When it comes to aftermarket car parts, it's essential to choose wisely to avoid any issues. Personally, I recommend IPD and Clevite pistons and bearings as reliable choices. Bulldog gasket kits are also a good option. However, be cautious of High Gaskets. It's crucial to research and select reputable brands for optimal performance and longevity.
Cmark suggested that while it's important to be cautious, certain aftermarket parts can be reliable. Personally, I have had positive experiences with aftermarket products like IPD and Clevite pistons and bearings, as well as Bulldog gasket kits. It's best to avoid High Gaskets. Over time, we have used IPD and Clevite parts and occasionally Bulldog gaskets with no significant issues.
A few years ago, I purchased three Clevite kits for the DT466 engine, but unfortunately, two of them had split liners within a month of use. This experience turned me off from aftermarket products, as I prefer to do a job right the first time. Just like in the movie "The Hunt for Red October," I believe in the principle of "one ping, one ping only." Trustworthy products are crucial for my truck shop's success.
I've had success with FP kits, never encountering issues with IPD kits but finding them to be of lesser quality in my opinion. During my time at a Navistar parts dealer for 8 years, I rebuilt numerous 466/530E engines, occasionally encountering issues with 466 mechanical engines. I remember one instance where the head was rebuilt with OEM valves from Mexico at a machine shop, only for it to fail two weeks later. Navistar advised us to use aftermarket valves, possibly from Melling. Ultimately, it's a toss-up between the two options! I highly recommend transforming your vehicle into a powerful beast, simply because you have the capability to do so! Consider getting a B model and working on it during the winter to achieve 7-800 horsepower and 2500-3000 torque. Let's make this project a reality!
The statement he made has left a lasting impact!
GregsHD shared his positive experience with FP kits, noting that he has never encountered any issues with IPD kits, although he believes they are of lower quality. Having worked at a Navistar parts dealer for 8 years, he has rebuilt numerous 466/530E engines, including some mechanical 466 engines. One particular engine had its head rebuilt with OEM valves from Mexico, which failed shortly after installation. Aftermarket valves from Melling were recommended by Navistar as a more reliable option. GregsHD encourages transforming your vehicle into a high-performance beast, suggesting a potential build for a B model with 7-800 horsepower and 2500-3000 torque. He mentions that the stock engine produces 375hp/1300 ft-lbs and that he has already rebuilt the transmission to handle around 1,550 ft-lbs. With a potential power increase of 25-50hp and a single 3.73 rear, he believes the vehicle could potentially rival a new pickup truck in performance.
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The 92U 3406 model may be a good option for upgrades in terms of horsepower and torque. With a stock capacity of 375hp and 1300 ft-lbs, the transmission has already been rebuilt to handle up to 1,550 ft-lbs. By adding an extra 25-50hp and a single 3.73 rear, this truck could potentially keep up with newer pickups. It can likely handle up to 2,000 ft-lbs, as the transmission's torque capacity is linked to the gross combined weight. With the right setup and maintenance, the transmission should be able to handle the increased power without issues.
I have had great success with Union Tractor, a well-known supplier that even provided me with specialty tools from their head shop. They are reliable for obtaining parts for truck engines. Additionally, I have utilized http://www.westerndieselwhsl.com for my needs. I also have connections in Kamloops that may be able to assist you with your truck parts requirements.
GregsHD recommended Union Tractor for truck engine parts, mentioning their helpful service and willingness to lend specialty tools. Another reliable source for parts is Western Diesel Wholesale. In addition, there are connections in Kamloops that can assist. Union Tractor is conveniently located in Pritchard, just off the main highway.
When choosing a transmission, it's important to consider the torque capacity and how it relates to the gross combined weight of the vehicle. The optimal capacity for the transmission should match the weight being towed to ensure smooth operation. Additionally, with a single drive, the drives may slip before causing damage to the transmission. By adding lowbed ramps to the back, there will be additional weight which can provide more traction. Trust me, I learned this through experience!
Union Tractor has multiple branches located in key areas including Nisku (the main office), Red Deer, Grande Prairie, Prince George, and Kamloops. The Kamloops branch has recently relocated near the bus depot for added convenience.
In response to 92U 3406, I mentioned adding lowbed ramps to increase traction, which will require a stronger transmission like the 18-speed I currently have. This modification will provide better handling and stability for heavier loads on the back of the vehicle.
Looking for Cat Classic parts? These are components that Cat has licensed to other manufacturers for production, but they may not meet Cat's exacting standards. The steel composition and hard surfacing are often different from genuine Cat parts. If you're building a showpiece Cat or using it casually at home, Cat Classic gears in the transmission could be a cost-effective option. However, for heavy-duty, everyday use, it's best to steer clear of them.
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When comparing a RTLO16913 and a RTLO18913 transmission, the key difference lies in the gear tempering and hard surfacing. It's important to note that Eaton only services 169 gears for a 189, meaning you won't be able to purchase 189 gears directly from Eaton. This results in a gear train that is a combination of both gears when rebuilding a 189 gearbox with Eaton parts.
In the past, engines like the Cat 1693 425 HP, the 3408, KTA, and 12V71 were paired with specific transmission models from the factory. However, some mechanics, like the one I work with, have successfully used a RTO12513 behind a 3408 in a C.O.E. Pete with good results. If you're in need of a high-torque transmission, consider the Eaton 2,300 ftb torque series, which can be found for around $8,500 used. Truck Shop specializes in Eaton transmission parts and can help you find the right gearbox for your needs.
Union Tractor, a distributor of popular IPD parts, has recently undergone a change in management, leading to the departure of many long-term employees. They are actively seeking mechanics and offering signing bonuses to attract new talent. According to a long-time employee, the new management closely monitors their every move, creating a tense work environment where employees must choose their words carefully. This may explain why Union Tractor is facing challenges in hiring experienced HD mechanics.
Welder Dave mentioned that Union Tractor is a major distributor of IPD parts. With new management in place, many long-term employees have left or been pushed out. The company is actively seeking mechanics and offering sign-on bonuses. According to a parts employee, the new management closely monitors their every move, creating a tense atmosphere. It seems that there are underlying issues causing difficulty in hiring HD mechanics at Union Tractor. In contrast, a couple of former Kamloops union workers have started their own successful business, HD Parts Direct, in Chase. Despite the changes in management, I still occasionally use Union Tractor without any problems. However, it's unlikely they would lend me tools like they did under the previous management.
The tightening of finances in the garage industry has led to challenges with insurance, liability claims, and employee benefits. Despite numerous job openings, there is a lack of qualified applicants in this field. The garage where I previously worked has significantly reduced its operations due to a shortage of reliable staff. As I observe numerous businesses closing down and holding liquidation sales, the struggle to find skilled workers in the industry continues.
How can I find the arrangement number for my 1979 model 3406 Caterpillar engine rated at 375hp? I only have a serial number stamped on the block, and when I input it into SIS (Systems and Components, TMI), it shows no available information. I am also unable to find the 375hp test spec under TMI in SIS, and the injection timing on the valve cover tag does not match any information in TMI. Could it be possible that Paccar had unique settings for Cat engines used in their trucks?
If you're searching for information on TMI, please be aware that TMI operates independently from SIS. Feel free to share your serial number (via private message, if preferred) and I'll investigate further for you.
I clicked on the TMI link to visit the other website, which provided a plethora of information. However, none of it aligns with the details I have regarding the valve cover. I have sent you a private message. Thank you.
Old-iron-habit mentioned that Cat Classic parts are actually licensed out to other manufacturers, but they may not meet Cat's strict standards. The steel composition and hard surfacing may differ from genuine Cat parts. For those building a show-worthy Cat or using it casually, Cat Classic gears in the transmission could suffice. However, for heavy-duty daily use, it's advised to avoid them. It seems Cat does offer classic parts, but there may be variations in quality compared to genuine Cat parts.
It may be premature to access the TMI database, so further examination is necessary. Is there an aftercooler present? Please check for a performance specification, typically labeled as 0TXXXX or 2Txxxx. If it's not located on the valve cover, it will likely be stamped on the top face of the FIP near the injection lines connections. This marking might be subtle, requiring you to remove the paint to make it visible.
bteigrob mentioned that Cat may have classic parts built under licensing agreements with subcontractors. It's unclear whether they manufacture the parts themselves using cheaper materials and processes, or simply place aftermarket parts in Cat Classic packaging with a markup.
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Cmark acknowledged the importance of further investigation before entering the TMI database early. It is recommended to check for an aftercooler and look for a performance spec such as 0TXXXX or 2Txxxx, typically located on the valve cover or on the top face of the FIP near the injection lines connections. If necessary, scrape off any paint to reveal the spec. Additionally, there is an air to coolant aftercooler present. If a test spec number is not found on the valve cover, checking around the pump for a number upon returning home is advised.
When looking for information on an AR# for a rebuilt A model 400 Dita engine, you may not have much luck. Eleven years ago, we successfully rebuilt one solely based on the engine serial number and part numbers. Kenworth is only able to provide limited information, such as the serial number and horsepower rating, if available. During those years, many engines did not have a detailed test specification on the valve cover. Visit our Truck Shop for assistance.
I have had positive experiences using various Clevite and PAI 3406E kits in the past. However, I encountered an issue with two liners that had failed the concrete bounce test. I had to pay for replacements and return the faulty ones to the mail-order company. While they later issued a credit, not all expenses were refunded. Now, I prefer to purchase locally to ensure better quality control. It is important to thoroughly inspect older equipment, gather multiple part numbers, and be cautious of any anomalies, such as a journal with only one turn. It is crucial to work with reliable suppliers who prioritize quality and customer satisfaction.
According to old-iron-habit, Caterpillar equipment is manufactured under licensing agreements by subcontractors. It is unclear if they also produce their own equipment using more affordable materials and methods. Thank you for your insight.
I exclusively sourced parts for outdated crawlers such as the D9D from "Cat Classic." Many of these parts were New Old Stock (NOS) that had been forgotten in the system. While some were of Italian origin, the salesman made sure to confirm their compatibility and did not categorize them as official Cat parts.
Cmark acknowledged the importance of further investigating the TMI database to gather more information. It is crucial to determine if the machinery has an aftercooler and to locate any performance specifications, typically labeled as 0TXXXX or 2Txxxx. These specs are usually found on the FIP's top face near the injection lines connections, sometimes requiring the removal of paint for visibility. Upon inspection near the pump, no relevant information was visible, but numbers were noted on the pump's tag: Pump Grp 6N4913 and Test No. 24621, with a "P" also stamped on the tag. Despite attempts to attach a photo of the tag, technical difficulties were encountered.
From my observations, the part number 6N4913 was exclusively utilized in four Paccar setups: 9N39409N55139N39419N5514. The latter two configurations feature a "brake saver" retarder, while the former two do not. Do you know if yours has this feature? The only distinguishable factor between the retarder-equipped models and the non-retarder models is the presence of sound insulation surrounding the oil pan.
Yes, it does have a brakesaver installed. So essentially, either of the last two options could be the solution? Thank you for your assistance, I really appreciate it.
Indeed, that is correct. It's important to note that data from older models has been digitized from microfiche to the electronic database, which could potentially lead to errors.