If you are unsure about the type of pump, most pumps of that kind are generally similar. To determine if it has a reversible motor, you can test it by connecting it in reverse. However, most auto hydraulic pumps are designed for double-acting hydraulic cylinders, while your auto jack is single-acting. This could pose a problem if you are trying to lift a dump bed to a significant height. The leverage may not be enough, and you may only be able to lift a limited amount of weight. To solve this issue, you may need to modify the bed to distribute the load more evenly. In this case, it might be better to consider using a rolling tarp unloader for the back of a pickup truck as it is a cost-effective and efficient solution. Building one yourself is also a viable option.
After uncovering an old 3-ton jack hidden behind the shed, I set out to refurbish it for use. Although missing a handle and sprocket, I was determined to make it functional. By repurposing parts from another jack, I was able to get the handle working and the pump functioning smoothly. Despite some challenges with the fit, a thorough cleaning and lubrication with ATF revived the jack. I still need to fashion a new pin for the handle before it's fully operational. In the meantime, I found another floor jack, making the project a success. The Torin 3-ton jack is now without a handle, awaiting its new role as a dumper bed accessory.
As the saying goes, "the dirt hasn't changed." Maybe there's a deeper meaning to that phrase, but hopefully no offense was taken. Do you believe you're more intelligent and creative than those you're seeking advice from? Congratulations! I was going to address your queries, but with a post like that, it's hard to know where to begin. Dmiller covered it well enough. When you mention "18 inches of fill over several acres" and constructing equipment for a fraction of the cost, take a look at the projects others are working on here. See what drives them to fabricate and create, it's not just about saving money. Many members are restoring vintage trucks and machinery, so consider the challenges they face before assuming your custom-built equipment will outperform decades-old machinery.
I'll review the threads again for any pertinent questions, but I won't reiterate the warnings about potential inefficiency or lack of value, as I've already addressed that.
Your jack likely has a relief valve preset at 10,000 PSI, suitable for hydraulic jacks and porta powers. Common hydraulic systems in farm, industrial, and construction equipment operate in the 2,000-3,000 PSI range (newer models go up to 4,000-5,000 PSI, while vintage tractors may be below 2,000 PSI). With that pump, your jack will only lift less than 1,000 lbs up to 10-15 inches, which may not be very useful. If you're interested in building your own hoist, consider checking out winch lifts on YouTube, a proven and effective solution as seen in practical use (such as Amish dump wagons with hand-crank winches). Alternatively, you could refurbish a used dump bed or truck for your needs.
I wasn't familiar with the concept of a tarp unloader, so I'll definitely search it online. I share your concerns about leverage points. I am considering storing my toolbox in the 6ft bed area, leaving 6' in and 4' out for the 10ft dump bed. This setup includes a pivot which should help address the leverage concern. I may need to attach large "J" hooks to prevent the load from shifting. By placing the jack near the rear pivot, it can raise the bed by about 4 feet and lower it by 3 feet. I might also build a ramp for loading equipment such as lawn mowers. I will experiment with running it in reverse to better understand its functionality. I noticed that most tarp unloaders are double-acting, so I will need to determine if a dump valve is necessary or if it can be powered down. I'll continue to explore this and test it carefully to avoid any potential issues. Thank you for the insightful suggestions. I'll be back later after running an errand.
Your friend may be making more money than you because he has heavily invested in his business. This is how the business world operates. When considering equipment like a floor jack or scissor lift assembly, it's important to note the differences in size and capability. For example, a scissor lift in a dump truck typically has a larger cylinder than a standard floor jack. Unfortunately, modern F-250 trucks are often not built for heavy-duty work anymore.
It appears that the power unit you have doesn't come with built-in solenoids or valves. This means you may need to spend extra time and effort finding the necessary components for it to function properly. Before diving into this task, I need to head to the store to pick up some popcorn. It's sure to make for some entertaining downtime.
I humbly seek advice as I admit I may not possess all the knowledge on this topic. Please provide corrections and explanations to steer me in the right direction. My goal is to expand my understanding in this area. Before proceeding, I want to ensure that my approach is viable. Thank you for highlighting the issue with the 10k psi relief on the jack. The pump is rated at 2,500 psi - does this mean it will struggle to lift heavy loads, or just take longer? What type of cylinder is compatible with this 2,500 psi pump for heavy lifting? Should it be positioned further from the pivot point, have a larger stroke, and move more fluid? Would an external overflow fluid system be necessary? Your insights are greatly appreciated, and I will check back for further guidance soon.
I'm learning more about how business operates after being away from it for 12 years. One guy I know is making up to $4,000 a week with his bucket truck, a luxury I can't afford yet. I may not be starting at the top, but I'm eager to dive back into the action, working outdoors with noisy equipment while getting a tan. Hopefully, I can make some money and save up for a bucket truck of my own. The F-250 may be seen as just a grocery getter nowadays, but this 34-year-old truck proves that they were built tough in the past. It effortlessly passes smaller vehicles loaded with materials, like those tiny 4Runners that I have to maneuver around. Enjoy the show!
Lifting and lowering a heavy load with a jack can be a time-consuming process. For example, one cubic yard of dry dirt weighs approximately 2200 pounds. When attempting to dump the load from a truck bed, the weight distribution may not be balanced enough to easily bring it back down. Therefore, it's important to not get frustrated if the initial attempt fails.
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td25c commented on a farmer's creative use of a pump in a dump truck. In another instance, a farmer utilized a short ram and cycled the dump part up multiple times with the cylinder. It may have taken longer to dump, but it got the job done. Can't recall if it was on Farmshow or another platform. More innovative farming solutions can be found at https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=7623.
I found the same article in Mother Earth News, Leroy! Enjoy reading it! Laugh out loud!
I recently came across a question regarding the compatibility of a 2,500 psi pump with lifting heavy loads. The concern was whether the pump would be able to handle the task efficiently or if it would simply take a longer time to achieve the desired lift. In response to this, it was suggested to use two 2 1/2" x 24" stroke cylinders, as mentioned in a linked article. Additionally, it was noted that positioning the cylinder further from the pivot point, increasing the stroke length, and ensuring a higher volume of fluid flow could contribute to lifting heavier weights successfully. It is essential to have a clear understanding of hydraulic principles, similar to how one would comprehend ohm's law or airflow calculations, before attempting such tasks.
In my opinion, what I foresee happening in this situation is a visually appealing f250 being totally wrecked.
We utilized a similar configuration for the boom hydraulics on our vintage 1967 Chevy C-30 tow truck.
Thank you td25c for the valuable information. Leroyhistory, it seems history is repeating itself. While researching hydraulic pumps in trucks, I came across the mention of Chevrolet power steering pumps. These pumps were modeled after a 1930's aviation rotary vane pump and were known for their reliability. Some sources mentioned successful modifications, but the stock pumps only delivered 2gpm reliably. I found an affordable pump that seems suitable for my needs. I appreciate the post as it aligns with my DIY project goals without the need for an expensive kit. I plan to acquire double-acting cylinders, a 6x control valve, and a pressure relief valve to have extra ports for future additions like blades, motors, or winches. Your contributions are greatly appreciated as I gather ideas, feedback, and experiences to make informed decisions on building the dumper. Thank you for sharing!
Contact the seller to negotiate a deal on this Ford F250 with a dump insert - either buy the whole truck for $3500 or offer $500 for just the dump bed. This listing can be found on Nashville Craigslist. By purchasing this pre-made dump bed, you can save money and time compared to building one yourself. The dump bed comes with the same pump system you are familiar with. If you only need the pickup dump bed, you can easily remove it and attach it to an old tandem boat trailer for versatile use. Visit the link below to view the listing on Craigslist: https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/la-vergne-ford-250-with-dump-insert/6828432713.html
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It seems like the perfect option, just as I had envisioned. However, it appears that it may not be feasible to build it for that price. Thank you for sharing this information, it's a fantastic choice. After further consideration, I have decided to steer away from using an automotive jack in the build. As you mentioned, it requires a 10,000 psi and would involve additional costs for pumps, cylinders, valves, etc. This truck seems promising, and I am definitely interested in it. I will contact the seller to inquire about purchasing just the bed. Additionally, I came across another option designed for heavy water tanks, which could be suitable for the project with some modifications like tires, hub rebuild, paint, and a bed. It would also be easier to tow for occasional use. I have reached out to the seller for more information. By implementing a simple winch hoist and pivot point, I can save money on purchasing extra hydraulic parts to kickstart the project. I am still undecided on the direction of this build, but hearing back about the trailer would be a good starting point. Your find has been immensely helpful in steering me away from using an inappropriate cylinder and providing better ideas to explore. I value your input and welcome any suggestions.
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Hello everyone, I'm Leroy, and this is my first post. I have many Earth moving ideas that I would like to bring to life to save money and avoid any mistakes. I am a novice engineer with experience in small machine building, professional body and paint work, and HVAC and electrical work. Now, I am looking to start a side business in Earth work and Tree service to take advantage of the growing construction economy this spring.
I recently purchased a parcel of land that I am clearing and shaping up. I cannot afford to buy expensive equipment like a dump truck, dozer, or excavator, so I plan to build my own functional equipment at a fraction of the cost. My first project is to build a dump bed for my pickup truck, an 85' F250 IDI DIESEL 4X4 4SP, to fill low spots on my land that flood in the spring.
I have acquired a 12v hydraulic pump and a hydraulic jack that I plan to use for this project. I am seeking advice on how to connect and set up these hydraulic components to build a functional dump bed for my truck. I am also open to suggestions and tips from professionals in the field.
Before I proceed with this project, I also need to consider factors such as the amount of dirt needed, insurance requirements, and relevant licenses. While I am inspired by my friend's success in the field, I understand the importance of proper planning and safety precautions when undertaking such projects. Any advice or guidance from experienced individuals in the industry would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Leroy Sr.
Last summer, I successfully moved 150 cubic yards of material using a loader and a 5-yard dump truck. It took several days to excavate and transport the material, followed by a couple more days to evenly distribute it, covering approximately 1/8 acre with a depth of about one foot. When multiplied by 8 and then by 18, the sheer quantity of material becomes apparent. In comparison, a 1 1/2-2 yard pickup bed dumper would take significantly longer to complete the same task, especially factoring in inclement weather conditions such as rain and freezing temperatures.
The Craigslist dump truck is best suited for hauling garbage and would not be able to lift dirt effectively. It would require manual shoveling to remove the dirt from the box. Opting for a tractor with a front end loader would be a faster and more efficient way to move dirt.
"I caught sight of it," I exclaimed. As I was browsing, I stumbled upon this interesting find: >View attachment 194396Click to expand...You're on the right track, Leroy. Repurposing old house trailer frames can be the perfect foundation for a compact trailer or dump bed for a truck.